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Leoben Conoy | Number Two ([personal profile] toasterprophet) wrote in [community profile] ataraxion2012-09-14 08:53 pm

002 ∞ ANONYMOUS TEXT POST

[Leoben has been letting most of his encryptions on the network, when he bothers to use them, hover at around an 70-80% effectiveness, and basing them off the work of others so as not to tip his hand too much. It's still early in the game, and he hasn't had any pressing reason to break out his real talents.

This post, though. It's sent to everyone, original crew included, but anyone trying to figure out what number it came from is going to be dealing with an absolute bastard of a coded encryption, full of traps and false backdoors, created by someone who's not only an AI himself but a specialist among AIs in coding, network jamming, and sabotage.

Of course, there are probably one or two people onboard who will guess immediately who it came from, but oh well. Leoben's annoyed.
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Being ejected out the airlock of a spaceship isn't all that fun a way to die. Take it from someone who knows.

If we're going to be talking about instituting a death penalty for crimes committed onboard, fine, although I'd rather restrict such a thing to crimes actually already committed, and committed here on this ship, rather than those that're just potentially maybe possible if we don't act now and preemptively murder them. But either way there are more humane - if you'll excuse the expression - ways to do it.

And if you've been making jokes about it because airlocking doesn't seem like a real threat to you, or you assumed it was some kind of clean and painless space death, please keep in mind that in some of our realities it was the customary method of execution without trial for political prisoners. If you're going to be funny, maybe you should mix in a few references to firing squads and mass graves just to keep it evenhanded.

You throw garbage out an airlock. That's what's being implied when you kill someone that way. And aside from everything else, it hurts.
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[personal profile] thenormalsquint 2012-09-15 05:02 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree. Wholeheartedly. It's far too risky of a judgement without solid proof of a crime and who are we to kill somebody for killing someone else? Two wrongs don't make a right. If one goes, we all need to go in that case.

I'm sorry that happened to you.
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[personal profile] thenormalsquint 2012-09-15 08:04 pm (UTC)(link)
I was. I haven't been here long, but I'm guessing there's no actual laws set down. Murder is murder around most people, but there's a big gray area with that. Self-defense is one of them. And then who gets to judge? Do we vote? What happens if the majority rules on no airlocking? What then? All of this leads to far too many questions and doubt and no one can just come on the network and say "Airlocks are a pretty good idea" because they aren't.
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[personal profile] thenormalsquint 2012-09-15 08:06 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm sorry. My brain got away from me there. I'm just coming off being asked what other options I had and I got riled up. I just know that not every crime is black and white and not everybody who commits a crime actually needs to be treated like an incurable criminal.
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[personal profile] thenormalsquint 2012-09-15 09:46 pm (UTC)(link)
As much as I would like the world to get along, I know that in reality, it never will. Not even in space. None of us are from the same world, except for a few people, so there are different rules there and none of us are the same person, period. People kill for all sorts of reasons and as hard as it is to say it, sometimes, they have reasons that are valid to them.

[Like parents killing to keep their children safe or people who killed because they were brainwashed to, both things Angela has experience with. It's a sensitive topic.]

And that's a problem. You'd think with all this talk about what punishments fit the crime, somebody would have mentioned crimes that have already happened and how they were solved. But when have people wanting the death penalty for just thinking about committing a crime, we can't have logic.
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[personal profile] thenormalsquint 2012-09-16 08:42 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm worried too. I'm hoping we can avoid all of that by sitting down and talking like reasonable adults.