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Jean Prouvaire ([personal profile] vivelavenir) wrote in [community profile] ataraxion2014-04-12 04:38 pm

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A query, for the ship...

I wonder, with what we do know about our predicament; and I admit, my knowledge is little when it comes to the gadgetry and computations that the running of this vessel requires; and what we do know about M. 'Smiley', as he is like to be called...

Well, how to put this?

[A pause and a breath, before tilting his head just softly and staring up at the camera.]

Smiley may not be human, is it so? This has been presented to me as an option. Not human, but digital?

And he has been upon the networks, in order to mock us. But the mocking has had a defined purpose, I have seen. Threats, that we "had better" fix problems-- both technical, and human in the case of the mutineer-- before it costs us our lives. That we "had better" keep the ship running. Yet, if it were not his will that it be fixed too, were it not in his best interest also, would he not use fear as a means of making us do his bidding?

If Smiley would guide us to to save our lives by saving the ship; perhaps it may mean that it is the improper course of action, after all? Perhaps we ensure his-- or it's-- safety by ensuring our own? And in doing so, we too may be responsible in part for leaving this vessel open to stealing more lives from their homes, more people from their families...

In other words, the question I would like to pose is this: If we knew, for fact, that the only way to stop the terrors on this ship and the kidnappings seen each month was in destroying the ship, thus protecting any future targets-- be they like us, or like those pirates, who were seen to summary execution...

Would you be willing to pay that price, to see that the right thing be done?

Dulce et decorum est pro mores mori.


Forgive me, if it is too morbid in thought. The question is surely a difficult one.
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[personal profile] but_civilization 2014-04-12 11:44 pm (UTC)(link)
Rather. He seems remarkable indeed, though the fine points and details of his world do rather escape me.

[And he is falling silent as Jehan asks that question, a little frown crossing his face.]

In that case, action would be wrong for as long as it hurt those who did not wish to be involved. There can be no forcing those who do not wish to take part in things of such nature, but were there some way to ensure they were protected...

Well, it is the sort of thing better left to compromise than to one absolute or other. If it WERE so strong an absolute, then I should have no choice but to allow things to continue. I think too, that we are different, you, and I, our friends, the others who've faced death. It is no longer so much of an unknown for us now,it does not leave so much to fear or worry at. I cannot imagine many living men for whom it is not at least something of a concern and obviously, in this proposal...

It would become a question of the greater wrong, though I would still feel badly sacrificing either way.
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[personal profile] but_civilization 2014-04-13 01:17 am (UTC)(link)
A more selfish...ah. Now that you mention it, I do see what you wonder. I'd also ask how it is that those of who HAVE made their way have done so. There are so many others who have not, or those who are the only person from their world here.

We would know, yes. Would that be a comfort or a curse? I never can decide if subjecting them to this would be good or not, and my God, so much worse for a parent, or, had Eponine come here alone this time, for her as well, I think. Not optimal but...something of a chance. I do wonder what chance we are being given here at that. IS it for a new life, or is that some carrot being dangled in our faces so we keep walking forward?

Very chilling. I dislike it.
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[personal profile] but_civilization 2014-04-13 02:52 am (UTC)(link)
And they do not seem to hold memories of the time before as well. And one would think, if we were purely sole as well, we would not be as affected by so many things. What are we when it comes to it, now? Those are...a good deal of questions to consider.

It IS quite one. Even in the last several weeks...having the rest of you here has been so much a help and comfort. This is a good life, or...it could be were it not for certain parts of it. It is only the things which overwhelm it.
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[personal profile] but_civilization 2014-04-13 03:42 am (UTC)(link)
They do at that. One would think if we were entirely soul, things would be far less of the earth still. It is as though we took ourselves here,even though we know otherwise.

And perhaps so. I could be happy here, I think, for the long term. I am already. But I cannot help but wonder where that moment picks up again, the one where we no longer stop.

Very little peace, at that.
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[personal profile] but_civilization 2014-04-13 03:56 am (UTC)(link)
There does not seem to be much pattern at that. Some means that is not immediate then, I suppose, but there. Do you think it worth looking into?

I think it could.
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[personal profile] but_civilization 2014-04-13 04:19 am (UTC)(link)
Those ARE good questions to be looked at. Through a number of them I think, but perhaps SOME narrowing down will do us good.

You are a partner who compliments my strengths perfectly well, and quite makes up for my own weaknesses. I think that far more useful in almost any venture. Look to the ABC as your example there.
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[personal profile] but_civilization 2014-04-13 04:30 am (UTC)(link)
Ah, but my principle is the same. We complimented each other, did we not, and made up for weaknesses in one area with the skill of another. That is a larger version of our plan it seems.

[And he is nodding thoughtfully here.]

Yes, yes that does seem the best.
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[personal profile] but_civilization 2014-04-13 05:11 am (UTC)(link)
Endurance is...yes, rather a good idea, since it does not seem likely I will have any sort of guns to take along. Perhaps I can add to what Bahorel and I have been working on with that.

And yes, the possibility of being lost. We must bring at least water with us as well.
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[personal profile] but_civilization 2014-04-13 05:27 am (UTC)(link)
Provided Smiley does not see fit to place them in my path as a test, of course.

[And then, Combeferre is looking mildly horrified.]

Does this mean that we need to learn how to prepare actual food?
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[personal profile] but_civilization 2014-04-13 08:27 am (UTC)(link)

Right then.

We need to find victims and my stack of the noodles I had meant to prepare at my dinner party in the fall. Those only need water and heat. We could also eat them dry if needed.

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[personal profile] but_civilization 2014-04-18 08:30 pm (UTC)(link)
If needed. But only then. It would hardly be ENJOYABLE but.

[And there is a little shrug from Combeferre, and then he's frowning, considering other food items.]

Things in tins, so long as we had a mechanical opener, perhaps some of the liquid cheese. I think that we could likely manage without the noodles. Probably.
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[personal profile] but_civilization 2014-04-20 07:28 am (UTC)(link)

Oh really? Is the liquid cheese so horrifying to him then?

[There is a little laugh because Combeferre does have to admit,it's a bit frightening. ]

No, no Bahorel would go after us himself, regardless of liquid cheese or anything else in the way. Courfeyrac is...I trust him a bit more to let us simply take our chances where Bahorel might want only to protect and in doing so, overprotect us if that makes any sense.

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