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Given all the rah rah rah for morality that I've seen lately, I figure the topic should be broached.

To me, it doesn't makes a difference and that's what's taken me so long to get to it. If kids want to drink, they're going to find a way to get to what they want. Not to mention, I hardly hold the monopoly on alcohol. [ he's getting to his point in a very roundabout way, yes. ] I'd also like to say that there isn't a day that goes by that I don't see at least one person drinking on camera, drunk texting or boasting about their inebriated state in some manner or another. More often than not, they're what I'd consider underage. And I'm not inclined to give much of a shit about where the product is going because I'm not profiting from it specifically in monetary value.

We don't have a set legal system. Each of us are from countries or worlds where the age cap varies or is completely irrelevant.

That being said, my point is: should there be an age restriction on those I knowingly permit into [ hm, no he's not going to say my ] an establishment where drinking and partying could lead to one thing and then another? I've seen an awful lot of preaching about save the children. God forbid we overlook their sweet, virgin eyes. If we're going to be stuck together for an indefinite amount of time, this might as well be addressed to [ huh, okay, what word does he want to use with you assholes? ] keep the peace. Or something like it. So, let's have it.

Don't care, couldn't be made to care or alternatively, open it to discussion. [ he's bored enough to let strangers and friends bicker at him and among each other. ] And if you were hired by myself or my [ other half ] business partner, report.

[ the camera angle lowers like he's done or ready to shut it off, instead he's scratching behind his ear and shifting his jaw to begrudgingly announce: ] Oh, and by the way, for those of you that knew him.. I think it's safe to finally assume that Justin Taylor has gone home. [ or wherever the fuck people who aren't dead but simply gone go, he doesn't say but his condescending and bitter fucking uncomfortable smirk implies. ]

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Of a certain age? And how would you determine that age? How would you determine what factors to include in such a test?

[He finds you somewhat amusing, Edgeworth.]

Note that I am not advocating this test. But if such a thing were to exist, I should think that it would be applied to anyone appearing...perhaps below thirty, and it would be used to determine physical maturity, since alcohol has particularly deleterious effects upon developing bodies, and the ability to cope with alcohol mentally.

Ah, but appearances can be deceiving.

[He switches to video. The boy on the screen could be as young as fifteen, although his poise, speech and manner could elevate him to as much as his very early twenties. No older.]

How old would you estimate me to be?

[Edgeworth frowns.]

Perhaps...fourteen.

[He's rather bad at this game.]

Edited 2012-08-31 05:14 (UTC)

[Godric smiles, amused but unsurprised.]

And yet I am far, far older. More than old enough by any society's standards to drink alcohol, although I cannot. It is possible there are many species who look young to the eyes of a human, and yet are fully grown. Or there may be those who appear fully grown, and are not. To target one such group and not the other due to our own value of appearances is merely a form of discrimination, however well-intended.

Quite. [At least he doesn't sound particularly surprised or thrown off-kilter; he's been here long enough that he'd expected the argument to go that way.] Mr...Godric, correct?

Just Godric is sufficient. I have no surname.

Very well. What advantages does alcohol provide?

I should think that is beside the point, as people will indulge in it whether or not there is a particular advantage you or I might agree with. It's simply a matter of personal freedom. But if you're asking for my opinion, I have none. I have not had alcohol in over two millennia.

...Quite. Answer me: do you think that the most important thing is freedom?

[Godric doesn't answer immediately, but his expression goes solemn as he constructs his answer.]

I have seen and experienced many forms of freedom, and many forms of slavery. I have seen civilizations fall at the angry hands of the oppressed, and through the apathy of excess and overindulgence. I think anarchy is to be avoided, but one must be careful not to sacrifice too much freedom for the illusion and comfort of safety. In a place such as this, Miles Edgeworth, where we have so few freedoms in truth, I think what little liberty we can cling to is indeed one of the most important things we possess.

I kill a man. I call it freedom. Am I in the right?

That is overly simplistic. Why did you kill him?

Because I was free to do so. It was an expression of my will, and so I expressed myself.

It can be agreed upon in most civilized societies that murder for the sake of murder is an immoral act contrary to the keeping of a free society. Even in the most primitive tribes, such a thing is not tolerated. I would also argue it is in no way comparable to the consumption of alcohol.

We're not trying to draw a parallel to the consumption of alcohol; we're now discussing freedom. So you agree such an act would be unacceptable.

Indeed, I would.

So in some cases freedom is secondary to security. To rules.

In some cases, yes. Too much freedom can be just as damaging as too little. It is a matter of balance.

For a child, for example. Give a child an excess of freedom, and he will poison himself. Do you not agree?

Perhaps, perhaps not. I would agree that a child needs guidance and boundaries, to be eased into the freedoms of an adult so they might make better decisions. But how strict those boundaries are depends upon the child. Some children mature more quickly than others, and can be trusted with greater freedom at an earlier age.

As per whose assessment?

Traditionally, their parents. If their parents are gone, whoever takes on the task of their guidance.

And what would we do here?

Here, it is anything but simple. Children arrive and children go. Some children are more insightful than any adult present, while others are reckless and lost. They are not comparable, and to approach them in the same manner would be a disservice to them all.

I would discourage destructive behavior in anyone if I saw it, no matter their age. I would offer advice to one who is drifting or uncertain. But if a child seems competent, mature and independent, I would leave them be unless otherwise asked.

We have a right to keep the children here from harming themselves or others, but I do not believe we have the right to impress upon them our personal values. We may suggest, we may attempt to teach if they are curious, but that is all. I do not believe it would be acceptable, for example, to tell a child he or she is not allowed to consume alcohol when they come from a society in which mead was more common than water.

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[voice] You don't get this pinched old-man face Godric

[video] but how can he see you froooowwwn :'(

[voice] Gotta earn the right to that troubled brow Mr. Godric :>

[video] turn that frown upside down

[video] no never :( He's never happy :(

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[video] noooooooooo :( :( :( those are full of angst damn you

video] but you're so cute~

[...and also that was voice] SAYS BABYFACE THERE

[video] but Godric is dangerous to pinch :3

[voice] what if I like a bit of danger

[video] game on.

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