[ Nathan is quiet for a moment, then goes on carefully, thoughtfully. ]

It's a controversial thing to say cause it's an opinion, but you've been here as long as I have, seen the lack of leadership, the furtive nature of these people, their strong desire to protect their own asses, and you know--you just start thinking they're closer to my kind of people than the captain type.

By which I mean professional liars, of course.