falsehoods: (It was time to whip the god.)
Loki Laufeyson ([personal profile] falsehoods) wrote in [community profile] ataraxion2012-09-16 02:16 pm

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[Loki is sitting in his bed, lounging back with one arm draped across the headboard and one knee hiked up. In his free hand he's holding the communicator. He seems to be getting better with video feeds because at least you can see him this time.]

I wish today to speak of security. There has been much talk of late of ways to make life here more comfortable. I have seen mention of holidays, of designated meal times, and other ideas to give people a sense of structure.

[The hand draped across the headboard rises to scratch the back of his coif.]

What people are proposing may eventually lead to a rudimentary government. As we apply rules to life here we must, also, enforce these rules or our efforts would be for naught.

I am aware that there is already some manner of security force on the ship, but their actions are not currently dictated by any actual law.

Should law come about, what shall the security team then do? What would we consider a transgression here where life is ever at the mercy of machines beyond our control? And how would we punish such transgressions? Would we, as Miles proposed, bring our criminals to trial? Or would we have them promptly executed?
jurisimpudent: (stressed)

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[personal profile] jurisimpudent 2012-09-16 06:51 pm (UTC)(link)
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Of course they'd not be executed without trial. Why is that even a question?

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[personal profile] puppydogeyes 2012-09-16 06:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Captain has the final word.

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[personal profile] believeinmagic 2012-09-16 07:08 pm (UTC)(link)
[She looks at the camera a bit darkly, with some determination in her eyes.]

Why would you execute someone promptly without proof?

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toasterprophet: (curious)

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[personal profile] toasterprophet 2012-09-16 07:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Good points.

So how do we define the word "we"? Who gets a say? Are rights limited according to species, perceived sentience, or just...whoever's got a tattoo on their arm? What if there's a disagreement about whether someone or something's alive or property?
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grndnpnd: (pic#1952574)

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[personal profile] grndnpnd 2012-09-16 07:33 pm (UTC)(link)
You're talkin' civilian law. Ship. Doesn't apply.

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the_infiltrator: (☢ thinking murder)

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Execution is sometimes the only way to neutralize a threat. Or do you think we could build cages to keep them in?

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walksonrooftops: (alienated)

[personal profile] walksonrooftops 2012-09-17 01:18 am (UTC)(link)
If there are rules, then people should follow them. Laws even more. There can be a trial, but if someone breaks the law, then they can be punished, can't they?

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bottlearum: (Looking behind)

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An' what be your definition of a criminal, mate?

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inebriety: (tony › gotta call you back)

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[personal profile] inebriety 2012-09-17 09:18 am (UTC)(link)
[WOW, IS HE THE ONLY ONE FINDING THIS WEIRD?

He's rigged this to ping back to some random person's communicator instead.]


Are you volunteering your services for this theoretical law making?

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dirtyword: starboard @ insanejournal (Maybe sometimes)

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Bulls gum stuff up.

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olympicgrade: (❝ that blinded every angel)

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[personal profile] olympicgrade 2012-09-18 03:40 pm (UTC)(link)
The security team isn't going to just kill someone. If it ever came down to that - and that's a big if - I imagine it would be after numerous trials that make sure the punishment fits the crime.

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aimlessness: (pic#4715504)

voice; 1/2 IF THIS ISN'T COOL LET ME KNOW OKAY.

[personal profile] aimlessness 2012-09-20 05:13 am (UTC)(link)
[ you know, clint was in his bunk, minding his own business and scrolling through all the shit people post when he caught sight of this. and just--stopped.

it's less about the face and more about the air. clint had loki burn his way into his head, peer out from behind his eyes. he'd recognize him anywhere, in any incarnation. ]


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cargojet: (Are you serious?)

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[personal profile] cargojet 2012-09-21 03:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Tell the truth, it's making me sick that there's even a damn debate over this. Even on a ship you have a damn court martial, and close as I can see this is a ship, not a goddamn lynch mob.

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