They're surviving, sure. There's no doubt about that.

[What do you take him for? He looks very offended.]

But we're not just going to survive, we're going to turn this into a fighting chance to live.

[Harvey grows quiet, contemplative in his silence.]

I'm not talking about disrupting the system, I'm talking about making it so that we can live properly. As you said, no way out. Might as well prepare for all eventualities.